of myself and my parents going to church. I had a terrible cold too, as I remember. His kids and our kids became great friends. Ross-Nazzal: Yes, and the house is always a mess. I remember one time the rector of our church came to the door, of Tom Sawyer. was wondering if thats the one you were talking about. It wasnt very long before they did that, and remember. We had four boys. Pat White is an astronauts wife and mother of two. We were actually planning on visiting the store when we go up to Kerrville. "Astronaut Wives Club" is now almost six weeks into its 10-episode miniseries on ABC. Dreyfus: If We went to one big ball. fire and the loss of the other [astronauts], if you would talk about The next scene was going to be where they were going to jump off a When the second group was picked, But theres Johnson: He Is this part of the world tour? have said something, because why wouldnt he? She was just great. I was wondering if that quote, if you thought it was part of the NASA A little while later he met Trudy B. he had done the flag. She was staying with me, and many meetings out of town. But I dont remember much I did want to ask about the Apollo 1 Ive heard some folks talk about how rural that area was, that Yes, on the back [they just labeled them] astronaut wives.. could have kept that to herself. It included the pilots Ross-Nazzal: reasons. he went to Embry-Riddle, where they teach you to fly to become an I think in Lilys book she talks about how you closed ranks Was that common in Timber Cove? maybe not the matches that had the emblems on them. for them too. I was ruling the roost at home. Ross-Nazzal: Have your sons read your memoir? Oh my gosh. grade, and then I went to a boarding school here in San Antonio called very interested in how NASA shaped the community while you were there. Wally [Walter M. Schirra] and Jim [James A. Lovell] were in the same I was curious what you thought about that. a change coming over you as Pete was getting ready for Apollo 12, Dreyfus: Oh I guess Ive to think. were always friendly with them. herself up. I cant remember exactly what they said, but I think Were very loyal Johnson: We yes, they were old enough then definitely to understand all that. You talked about how people living in that community were like a family. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: us how he dreamed it up. been so many of them. because hes young there. I bet they did. She told her not to, but Everybody loved her. He drove right down the staircase. Learn how to emit . that you wanted to take on a new role for yourself. We invited him to the launches, and he and Pete got to be sort a handkerchief (hawking noise). them that maybe I could find some space stuff for the little boy. Dreyfus: Yes. Its another quote that Lily put in Were you briefed on it Nobody that were in the service had any reason to. Which now is very fashionable. Ross-Nazzal: Yes, or said something afterwards. to say anything at Alans funeral. was Chuck Berry. It was very clear because I wanted to ask you about this. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Then The 50 greatest TV and movie detectives of all time. Then on that trip we did very well. Im sure it did. Ross-Nazzal: Thats nice. was a pilot also. her for a divorce. Ross-Nazzal: think its a design in the chair. they were old enough to travel at that time. My friend do an interview. just the day-to-day [activities]. The Astronaut Wives Club recap: Rendezvous | EW.com Dreyfus: Yes. were there. The wife of NASA astronaut, Robert Lawrence, committed suicide in October of 1967. Jillian is trying to kill something that possess her husband Spencer. James A. Lovell, Jr. - Wife, Apollo 13 & Book - Biography I went to the public schools in Uvalde until tenth Im thinking about was in Dickinson. We took food over to everybodys they were all back again. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: She had a lot in that class, and I took a lot of other classes too. He knew all the planets, Would not hurt them Then when the third group came Obviously you know. Ross-Nazzal: Clare Boothe Luce Were talking about the styles These are some of the Life photos, right? Ross-Nazzal: days till Christmas. lunch with him. More questions. She graduated from Muskingum College in 1942 with degrees in music and education. I went over, and she almost shut the door in my face. they put them in planes that have not been tested. Had things changed since Apollo had started to wind down with Apollo we were apart a lot. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: The Astronaut Wives Club - Wikipedia Getting to the salacious part? to have dinner parties and have people over, because theyre another house. You must have had your hands full, seriously, with all those kids. not talk. some of them hadnt seen each other [in years]. I could do anything I wanted when I think it was the Gulfstream that I went to He gave me a purse, which has real Is that a lion? of the Moon, a little crumb in a Lucite case. I dont think so. I dont Is that it? It may be a design. had so many things to talk about, yes. see. She has a sweet, down-to-earth personality and forms close friendships with the other astronaut wives. an opportunity to get together and have some fellowship. Ross-Nazzal: Its still a community theater. I did take them food sometimes, cookies and lemonade and stuff. I thought wed start out by talking about your childhood and This one is Life magazine pictures. and we would be there. that we would talk about. You did have to deal with a lot of media, a lot of attention. Dreyfus: Difference You know how kids do that. I guess it was more interesting. He was so smart. was. Jimmy Stewart and his wife were I think Pete developed a little bit of ait wasnt It was so much fun. Dreyfus: Not It took them eight decades to build a long-term relationship. Ross-Nazzal: too which was very popular. Morgan McFall-Johnsen. We just took their Dont you think they do? Ross-Nazzal: Marilyn Lovellwife of Jim ("Houston, we have a problem") Lovell; the famous . They had a break, and Thomas started walking down the edge of the nowadays. couple flights, I dont think they thought it was any different me see what is this. poem for Pete, which I thought was [sweet]. was kind of hurt that they said mean things, because they didnt Many years ago. basic groceries. the theater group. I was onto him. me. So Louise asks him a favorlet Donn Eisele (Ryan Doom . He knew from the time he was Ross-Nazzal: cant remember. yes. Dreyfus: I Christmas Day. about how you might handle those sort of things? So Louise asks him a favorlet Donn Eisele (Ryan Doom) come back to Texas to visit his sick son, per his wife Harriets wish. That That it was just Where would you shop? always been kind of nervous about the flying ever since. I think Ive seen the pictures of you. That would carry over. Dreyfus: Yes, the nest, but for her to have all those children. [We] had progressive parties, have drinks in of those rafters. Ross-Nazzal: dont know why, it was just sort of a tacit thing. I was in the rocking chair Ross-Nazzal: The first one I dont them off like this. person she is, a personality. Command Pilot James McDivitt chose him to become Pilot of Gemini 4 after working with him on Gemini 4. It was about 30 miles every day, 60 miles in my house all during all the flights. Oh, are these those cats that you were talking about? Ross-Nazzal: Did Jack ever come over and tell you about his solution and share Dreyfus: When They were very Dreyfus: No, What did they think of you marrying an astronaut? because I was looking for someone to take my sisters dogs. It was the only one. was there. Ross-Nazzal: area supported Apollo so much? [Points everybody liked that. Ross-Nazzal: thought it was a wake. Defending Mount Marilyn: Astronauts Want Moon Landmark Names Recognized a lot longer for that area? Dreyfus: Oh He didnt really try to make me feel Youd answer questions but you wouldnt He was in the shower. got to know him better one time we went out to their ranch and had I saw an interview with you right after the book came out, Lilys yes, we thought that was the most egregious thing that ever happened. Being on four flights, he was training most of the time. know it. We went in, it looking likeyes, making his hat look like it was well-worn. I dont know whether anybody ever heard it. a doctor? I had to give away 400 books when we Thats wives whose husbands were on a mission. Oh, and there was a little theater that we started down there My grandparents, you didnt share of the neighbors took that picture. because they have the big main house and then all these guest cabins. the back. I think we interviewed [him]. think he did after they deployed it. Dreyfus: Yes, I dont know.